Posts by Pete Zahut

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The women that abandon “The Good News” are a large army

by Aimee.Padilla in

to be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.

those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.

i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.

Pete Zahut

With rare exception the men were pretty much worthless in getting bible studies.
Thinking back we had a cadre of highly qualified sisters who couldn't be used in any position of authority. What a waste of a resource that was. What a waste of a gift.

I understand the complaint women in the JW organization have/had but in this case and isn't it good that men were "worthless" at getting Bible studies and isn't it a good thing that women were spared from having further culpability in the running and organization of a cult like false religion and misleading other vulnerable people? I don't understand why one would come to the conclusion that they were in a Cult and then complain that the cult leaders didn't allow them to have more authority in it.

I don't think anyone was intentionally "oppressed" from being a JW. Mislead, yes but the missed opportunities and wasted talents that both men and women experienced came from listening to men who (usually) had the best of intent when trying to apply ancient Middle East values in a modern western world. No one held a gun to our heads. A lot of young JW's had the courage early on, to do what they had to do to free themselves regardless of the consequences.

There is real oppression that took place in history and is still going on in the world but not many JW's today in the western world can (in my opinion) truly say they were "oppressed". Much of what we experienced, we allowed to happen because it was easier than having to face reality and make a big change. There was a personal payoff we enjoyed by staying as long as we did.

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The women that abandon “The Good News” are a large army

by Aimee.Padilla in

to be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.

those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.

i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.

Pete Zahut

The ex-witness women that I know (and there are a lot), are brave women, intelligent, rational, All warriors! And with every day that passes more and more women join us in this steady fight in letting it be known that the JW organization is a dangerous sect.

And while were at it, lets hear if for the men who grew up and freed themselves after spending their childhoods being forced to do things they didn't want to do and had no talent for, simply because their overly ambitious religious fanatic mothers were using them to compete with other women just to see who was the best mother in all the land. Let's hear if for the little boys who's mothers tried to emasculate them and mold them into being stodgy book bag carrying ministers rather than allowing them to go outside and kick a ball around a field with other boys.

Let's hear it for the husbands who got themselves away from thankless manipulative wives who only wanted the prestige of being married to a man with a role of responsibility in the congregation or a lucrative secular career so that she could feel superior to other women without having to actually do anything real herself except suffer the horrid oppression of donning a head covering now and then or riding around in a minivan with other women so she could call herself a "Pioneer". Let's not forget about the women who forced their little girls to be submissive and modest little minions like themselves and then shamed them or even shunned them for wanting more.

Let's hear if for the men who wasted their lives doing what women wanted and expected of them only to have these women later claim to be "warriors" who were oppressed by men, even though no one held a gun to their head. No, they were more than happy to have a man to do the heavy lifting and to shoulder all the responsibility and the blame once things didn't turn out the way they expected. Do these men get to call themselves "warriors"? Nope....because when a man allows himself to be oppressed, he was a weakling and a fool with no one to blame but himself. Blaming others is not a luxury that men are allowed and calling himself a "warrior" for finally doing what he could have done all along, would be laughable.

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Which songs give you goosebumps?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?

', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.

y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.

Pete Zahut

https://youtu.be/ciZpK-KUGlg

https://youtu.be/gQ9ZVGM7smE

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So according to wt. Doctrine, If you die one day before Armageddon...

by nowwhat? in

you will be resurrected.

but if you live one more day when armageddon starts you will die a horrible death with no chance of a resurrection.

makes sense to me!.

Pete Zahut

If you're 99 years old or have a terminal illness with only 6 months to live when armageddon strikes and you manage to survive it, you'll still die in the because it's going to take 1000 years to grow to perfection.

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Are You Afraid of Contracting The Covid Virus?

by minimus in

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friends

thankfully my best friend who got this terrible malady is doing well after being in the hospital for more than two months!

i see some people who are still petrified over this virus.

they are still virtual prisoners in their own homes.

Pete Zahut

Nope...refuse to be held prisoner by the fear of it. I do wear a mask while I'm out and use hand sanitizer before and after leaving any public place but the whole thing doesn't seem real to me anymore. I'm half expecting to hear that it was all a hoax but until then I'll behave as if it isn't.

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JW Tchotckes _ How Nauseating Are They?

by Room 215 in

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knorr, franz, henschel et al must be spinning in their graves....https://www.jwstuff.org/.

Pete Zahut

I like the "Got Jehovah?" tie clip.

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Unbelievable Freddie Franz Admissions

by Vanderhoven7 in

unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

Pete Zahut

After quitting Oxford, Freddy went on to support himself by doing detergent commercials until his big break as a Prophet and Cult Leader finally came along. He also was the voice of the 1960's cartoon "Underdog"

https://youtu.be/M6Sj2YL87Oc

https://youtu.be/0hzRm1k8EJI

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Tony Morris was right

by wolverines in

i have no love loss for the gb or religion and this is not an apologist attempt.

in fact i hate the religion and the gb.

but i watch night after night young kids who's minds have been corrupted by the propaganda and dogma that modern college's are teaching them.

Pete Zahut

Tony Morris Was Right

Yes....he was right to repeat the same message that has been repeated for decades because it worked back then and it will work now. There's always be a cross section of people who love hearing that they can sit back and do noting...just let sky daddy take care of everything

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My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

by James Jack in

dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

Pete Zahut

~~Dear Brothers,~~ July 27, 2020.
To the Body of Elders, XYZ Congregation

I realize that there are consequences with disassociating oneself from the Organization, but I believe that this is the best path for me to explore now.

I realize that disassociating oneself from the Watchtower Organization is a matter that you take seriously as do I. Regardless of that, if any sort of official decision regarding me or any announcement about me is made from the platform or any other way that could result in negative consequences to myself personally or to my family, legal action will be taken against the individual or individuals responsible.

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AUSTRALIA | 23 July 2020 - Jehovah’s Witnesses Kingdom Hall bomber found guilty by Supreme Court

by jwleaks in

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friends

leonard warwick has been found guilty for a number of bombings committed during the 1980’s, including the family court bombing and the jehovah’s witnesses casula congregation kingdom hall bombing on 21 july 1985 which killed the public speaker, graham wykes, and injured 13 others.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/leonard-warwick-family-court-bomber-found-guilty/12483286.

side note: i have been closely following this story for 35 years now, including the past few years of supreme court hearings, much of which dealt with the jehovah’s witnesses kingdom hall bombing..

Pete Zahut

Odd that this KH bombing even happened and the guest speaker was killed seeing as how we’ve all heard stories of how Jehovah often intervened to cause literature to be smuggled into countries where JWs are banned or JWs are directed by the Holy Spirit to call on someone at the door who was about to commit suicide.

How do they explain this one away?